New Single

[MigFan]

I heard on the late news last night that "Pretty Vegas" would be released today as the new single. Now I am not in the music buisness, but I would have thought that it would take more than a couple of days to record a distribute a new single world wide? Does anyone who knows something about this have any information, as I was a huge fan of the show & would be really dissapointed if the outcome was that pre-arranged. I am not silly enough to believe that the band did not have a good idea before the result, but to be recording a song before the finale, would really make the whole thing a joke to me. The news report also said that JD co-wrote the song, was I wrong in thinking that he wrote this song alone in earlier weeks at one of the rock star clinics??

[DrivMCr8zy]

I truly believe it was prearranged and set up and we the audience was made fools of by INXS.
All these nights staying up pass our bedtimes trying to vote for our favorite singers.
I know what I put in as voting and it proves INXS did not listen to what the audience/fans wanted. They did what they wanted. Like the word ASSUME..well they made us ASSUME = (ASS)-(U)-(ME).

[Angeloz]

Originally Posted by MigFan

I heard on the late news last night that "Pretty Vegas" would be released today as the new single. Now I am not in the music buisness, but I would have thought that it would take more than a couple of days to record a distribute a new single world wide? Does anyone who knows something about this have any information, as I was a huge fan of the show & would be really dissapointed if the outcome was that pre-arranged. I am not silly enough to believe that the band did not have a good idea before the result, but to be recording a song before the finale, would really make the whole thing a joke to me. The news report also said that JD co-wrote the song, was I wrong in thinking that he wrote this song alone in earlier weeks at one of the rock star clinics??

It was on the radio here in OZ today. Sounds like a set up to me. Apparently the band is being interviewed tomorrow morning here on morning television and it will be interesting to hear if the media has picked up on it. No doubt the media will ham the whole Rockstar thing up. That old saying springs to mind, "Never let the truth get in the way of a good story"

[Mo1]

Originally Posted by MigFan

I heard on the late news last night that "Pretty Vegas" would be released today as the new single. Now I am not in the music buisness, but I would have thought that it would take more than a couple of days to record a distribute a new single world wide? Does anyone who knows something about this have any information, as I was a huge fan of the show & would be really dissapointed if the outcome was that pre-arranged. I am not silly enough to believe that the band did not have a good idea before the result, but to be recording a song before the finale, would really make the whole thing a joke to me. The news report also said that JD co-wrote the song, was I wrong in thinking that he wrote this song alone in earlier weeks at one of the rock star clinics??

Yes, isn't Pretty Vegas JD's version of the song he refused to sing with 4 others in his group, when they had been split to 5 to write a song. Jordis' lyrics were chosen instead and JD refused to go along with that. He was later asked to sing his version of the song, and I seem to recall Dave Navaro commenting it was a better version.

I am from UK and can get little or no news since the final. We will see the show here on Sunday evening. Just a brief mention on my tv teletext about who had won, so far.

Got a strange feeling though, that something is amiss regards the outcome.. And not just thinking that because I was a huge MIG fan. No sour grapes here....but !

[greeneyez75]

Yes, I'm sure they knew before the finale who they were picking. Whether they began recording a week ago or three weeks ago, I have no idea. I don't think the decision was made more than three weeks ago, though. Because that was when did his original song and it was so well received. He got the viewer-voted encore, and the band really liked it.

I think the reason they're calling it a "co-written" song is because while JD did write the lyrics, the track was already recorded by INXS, so they've got as much to do with it as the lyricist. As we've already mentioned (in another thread here) I think the final outcome could have been influenced more by the songwriting clinic/skills than by the actual performances. I read in one of the few post-finale interviews that the band was actually really impressed that JD went off by himself to write that song rather than staying with his group and doing a song he didn't support. Makes me wonder what could have happened if Marty and group had taken his lyrics (or more of them) instead of insisting on Jordis's. Then it would have been a group song, rather than JD's individually. Perhaps they wouldn't have been so impressed, and he wouldn't have been able to use it as an original in later weeks, admittedly the turning point in the series for his favor.

Also, I remember reading that when they were writing the originals, JD had to get permission from all his teammates to sing the Pretty Vegas song because they did all collaborate for a while, and some of the "group-lyrics/ideas" were incorporated into JD's song. What if they hadn't given permission???

Some of his supporters on another board have repeatedly and enthusiastically claimed that if he hadn't been able to use Pretty Vegas, he would have been able to come up with something just as good. I think not. How many times was it reported that he has no musical training? He had the most primitive and basic ideas of communicating with the house band about how he wanted to change his songs musically (remember - whap! whap! whap! ???) and I do not think he would have been able to write the musical track and the lyrics for another song as catchy as Pretty Vegas. (Ok, I admit it, I actually like that song... not JD, just the song! I swear!) While Marty and MiG and Ty were always seen to be helping the other contestants write (and also, all three have been in their own band before, while JD has not), JD had one original piece. One. And the second attempt (final three)was dismal at best - didn't Andrew himself say JD came in with almost nothing and they worked out the rest of the second song together? Again, it was only lyrics. Not that lyrics aren't important, but I would think that the actual music would be more difficult to write. Maybe that's just a non-musician's opinion, though...

[Lil' Bit77]

Perhaps they all recorded their original songs in studio before the finale, so that way whoever won would have it out in the public immediatley.

I don't know, but I really don't think JD had this competition in the bag the whole time. Agree that the band probably did not know who they were choosing at least until the final 2-3 weeks.