Three Races.Only

[flo-christine]

To the producers of Survivor and those educated in the Number of Races. Hispanic is Not A Race!!!! It is an ethnicity. Do your home work. Some people will actually believe this very misleading statement. Hispanics belong to the Caucasian race.

[cwalton]

They never said that it was divided by "race". The media has said that. The hysterical public has said that. Jeff and the commercials have always refered to them as "ethnicities".

Why is that such a big issue for some people?

[turboguy]

Some of them are a subset of the caucassian race. Some of the asian race.

Thankfully, none of them are bunnies from the jungle.

[stevec]

Originally Posted by flo-christine

To the producers of Survivor and those educated in the Number of Races. Hispanic is Not A Race!!!! It is an ethnicity. Do your home work. Some people will actually believe this very misleading statement. Hispanics belong to the Caucasian race.

Oh geeze, A little sensitive are we?

[turboguy]

No Steve, they are just being "correct", or "accurate" if you will.

Being "accurate" or "correct" is a concept some have lost sight of. It's far more important than being "politically correct"


/TG

[cwalton]

Actually, they are not being correct or accurate.

The producers of the show have been careful to say that they have divided people "ethnically". I have not heard them say they "race".

The media and the hysterical public and the people around the water cooler have said the word "race", but not the producers of Survivor.

"An ethnic group is a group of people who identify with one another, or are so identified by others, on the basis of a boundary that distinguishes them from other groups. This boundary may take any of a number of forms -- racial, cultural, linguistic, economic, religious, political -- and may be more or less porous. Because of this boundary, members of an ethnic group are often presumed to be culturally or biologically similar, although this is not in fact necessarily the case. "

TurboGuy - You are wrong again. What are you referring to with "bunnies from the jungle."? Are there in fact bunnies living in jungles, TurboGuy? I know you like to deal in fact.

[turboguy]

Originally Posted by cwalton

The producers of the show have been careful to say that they have divided people "ethnically". I have not heard them say they "race".

Hmmm. So, "Caucasian" is now an ethnicity, is it ?

"While ethnicity and race are related concepts (Abizadeh 2001), the concept of ethnicity is rooted in the idea of social groups, marked especially by shared nationality, tribal affiliation, genealogy, religious faith, shared language, or cultural and traditional origins, whereas race is rooted in the idea of a biological classification of Homo sapiens according to chosen genotypic and/or phenotypic traits."


Caucasian is a RACE, so there goes your theory out the window. Sure hope they didn't teach you otherwise in that college you went to


My friend -- aside from the spin the producers may want to put on it, what you have here is division BY RACE.....

I'm also more than confident that none of the participants is an above average stand-out for their race, and so I am also confident that traits which have been well established in racial studies will come to the forefront when it's all over. The bunnies will be coming out of that jungle soon enough....


/TG

[cwalton]

Um, yeah, "caucasian" can be an "ethnicity" per both of our definitions. There is no basis to refute that idea. Yes, it's also a race.

Originally Posted by turboguy

Hmmm. So, "Caucasian" is now an ethnicity, is it ?

"While ethnicity and race are related concepts (Abizadeh 2001), the concept of ethnicity is rooted in the idea of social groups, marked especially by shared nationality, tribal affiliation, genealogy, religious faith, shared language, or cultural and traditional origins, whereas race is rooted in the idea of a biological classification of Homo sapiens according to chosen genotypic and/or phenotypic traits."

Caucasian is a RACE, so there goes your theory out the window. Sure hope they didn't teach you otherwise in that college you went to

My friend -- aside from the spin the producers may want to put on it, what you have here is division BY RACE.....

I think that we've already established that "Hispanic" is not a race so we definately DO NOT have a "division by race." You need to quit changing your mind on this stuff. Try to pay attention.

[turboguy]

Sorry conrad, but "caucasian" is NOT an ethnicity. I'm glad you have your own definition of what ethnicity means -- but what part of the definition of the word that I posted is lost on you?

To give you a few examples: German is an ethnicity; Italian is an ethnicity; Japanese is an ethnicity. "caucasian" is not. It's a race.


You need to think outside the bottle a bit. Well, actually you just need to re-read stuff and think a bit.

As for the game on tv, we are still looking at a division by race. One tribe just happens to be made up of caucasian/asian offshoots.


/TG

[madash]

Originally Posted by flo-christine

To the producers of Survivor and those educated in the Number of Races. Hispanic is Not A Race!!!! It is an ethnicity. Do your home work. Some people will actually believe this very misleading statement. Hispanics belong to the Caucasian race.

you are correct about one thing, hispanic are not a race, however you are totally incorrect about your quote that hispanics belongs to the caucasian race. the fact is hispanics come in all different colors Even Black, fact is hispanics are individuals where as in whos' country of origin spanish is there official language, so in short do your research, thank you and have a nice day.