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Old 05-12-2008, 11:04 AM
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I breathed a sigh of relief when Ms Evil and Ms Lazy Lump were booted out. The facail expression on Amanda in the openning shot at the awards ceremony told it all. She obviously knew what the final vote was before the ceremony.

JEALOUSY, JEALOUSY JEALOUSY....I think was the the main factor, not outplaying, outsmarting or outwitting, in deciding the outcome. Ozzy's romantic dialogue at the final TC probably hit the jealousy nerve of a few jurors. Too bad.... because Amanda definitely outwitted and outplayed everyone. Not only was this true in the final challenge but also in the excavation of that big trench on the beach to find the HII. How many of the final four could have done that? That's something the tv viewers saw but the jury didn't.

I think its time for Survivor to "fix" the final millionaire selection. Why not have both the jury and the tv viewers vote? If they both agree on the winner, then fine...no problem. If they don't, then a third and final tie breaker.....maybe a coin toss would do.

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Have the jury vote at the ceremony or have the ability to revise their vote then. In this way the jurors will have seen the same thing on tv that the viewers saw, like Amanda digging at Exile Island, in addition to what the tv viewers didn't see.
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Old 05-13-2008, 12:18 AM
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I think its time for Survivor to "fix" the final millionaire selection. Why not have both the jury and the tv viewers vote? If they both agree on the winner, then fine...no problem. If they don't, then a third and final tie breaker.....maybe a coin toss would do.

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Have the jury vote at the ceremony or have the ability to revise their vote then. In this way the jurors will have seen the same thing on tv that the viewers saw, like Amanda digging at Exile Island, in addition to what the tv viewers didn't see.
The first option is a possibility, but the second option, is simply ridiculous. Just because the one you wanted to win doesn't win it, doesn't mean the rules should be changed. Obviously, even with the lying and deception, Parvati played the better social game. Amanda was the better peson, but Parvati did a better job at the F2 her answers were better. Amanda choked with her answer to Cirie. If Amanda had said that she felt she had a better chance at F2 against Parvati, she may have gotten Cirie's vote.....as Parvati did.
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The first option is a possibility, but the second option, is simply ridiculous. Just because the one you wanted to win doesn't win it, doesn't mean the rules should be changed. Obviously, even with the lying and deception, Parvati played the better social game. Amanda was the better peson, but Parvati did a better job at the F2 her answers were better. Amanda choked with her answer to Cirie. If Amanda had said that she felt she had a better chance at F2 against Parvati, she may have gotten Cirie's vote.....as Parvati did.
I think the first option is the best too. The second option wouldn't be as good but it addresses the problem of too much passion, including jealousy that is so strong at the final TC.

As far as Parvati is concerned, I don't think she would have been in the F2 if Amanda didn't make the major effort to find the HII. I believe she would have been voted off right after Amanda if the HII wasn't found and beautifully played. So, IMO Parvati stood on Amanda's shoulders to win the 1 Mil. I think the majority of tv viewers would have voted for Amanda.
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Amanda choked with her answer to Cirie. If Amanda had said that she felt she had a better chance at F2 against Parvati, she may have gotten Cirie's vote.....as Parvati did.
Not so, read cwaltons interview with Cirie--she states she told Amansa at F-3 if you pick Parvati over me you won't get my vote.
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yeah, but a well spoken answer may sway minds. Amanda bombed that question regardless. For a pageant contestant, I would have expected her to be better under the gun, than Parvati. don't get me wrong, I was rooting for Amanda, but her answers for the most part were not very good.
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yeah, but a well spoken answer may sway minds. Amanda bombed that question regardless. For a pageant contestant, I would have expected her to be better under the gun, than Parvati. don't get me wrong, I was rooting for Amanda, but her answers for the most part were not very good.
I think pawpaw's comment about Ciri shows what I think is true of final TC. And that is the jury had a lot of time to think about who they were going to vote for before the final TC and had their mind made up. I think the final TC is just for venting emotions......the questions asked reflect that. It's mainly for the tv viewers......so I don't think the final TC Q&A has any influence on the vote.
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